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Good work Beverly! I love the video thank you for sharing with us. Willa is giving me the same out-of-position sits. Dutch is father along then Willa, but not a surprise since Dutch has a better owner. 🙂
I always move to heel position before rewarding. I need to work on the sit by itself within the context of proper position. The sit in heel position is actually just a component of the fuß (heeling). Fuß is a position the dog should be in relative to his handler: shoulder lined up with left hip. If the handler is moving then the dog moves staying in that position and if the handler is not moving the dog sitz. But the position to the handler should always remain the same. Jason’s video so perfectly demonstrates perfect fuß position. Maybe we should have him give us a some tips?
Very nice, Beverly! Great job on the hand signals. Thank you for sharing your video.
Lies Rosema
12 years ago
He’s so cute! Great video and great work!
Julie, Jason would probably tell you to watch Michael Ellis. I am personally not a ME fan (don’t *dislike* him but there are a lot of things he does I never do and don’t see much value in doing) however one thing I do like about ME is that he does a TON of “doodling” where the dog is always pivoting, pivoting backwards, heeling backwards, etc. The dog needs to understand the fuss position, not the movement. ME also trains the dog to find the leg. The dog should be able to find heel position before heeling forward.
This is a sweet ME video on heeling:
I personally start with the dog sitting in basic making eye contact and work this until the dog understands that fuss = be in heel position and make eye contact. I don’t take a single step in any direction until there is that understanding. This is something I have changed big time since training Nikon, where I did WAY too much luring and also started moving too soon, so he heels OK, not bad by any means, but he doesn’t have the same understanding of fuss position as a dog like Pan or Jason’s Ike and it’s pretty obvious. Also in order to heel really well a dog must be able to “collect” in the rear in order to stay straight, make left pivots, and not swing wide. This is where the perch work is really important. Jason also heels the dog between his legs as a puppy, so the dog doesn’t get in the habit of always crowding in one direction but always remains collected and straight. Another thing I like to do that encourages the rear collection and also rewards the position is to feed the dog as we heel rather than lure with the food. The dog is literally munching from my hand the whole time. My goal here is not to train the heel by fading the food, but physically condition the dog (“muscle memory”) for the correct position, so the dog becomes accustomed to how fuss *feels*. I don’t care that I feed the dog the entire time; if the dog has drive it is very easy to remove the food and move into actual heeling later on once the understanding is there. I would much rather condition the correct positions early even with a lot of help and gimmicks like the perch than move on too quickly and have to clean up.
Good reply Lies. You will find that all your dogs will benefit from the mistakes made with past dogs, or from things you wish you would have done differently. Then you will have new dogs that will teach you new things.
I really like ME’s philosophy and videos, but don’t find all of his techniques particularly useful to me and Batty, either. His “Focused Heeling” video is very good though.
Beverly
12 years ago
Thank you all SO MUCH for your help and advice. I absolutely LOVE the “Freaky Footwork” video – it perfectly demonstrates what to strive for. I was so worried about my own lack of training proficiency. Dutch certainly has the ability to perform at the highest level. It is my own limitations that limit his potential. We love working together, and it’s necessary to continually raise the bar in order to challenge him. I depend upon feedback like yours in order to avoid making too many mistakes along the way.
LARHAGE
12 years ago
Well done Beverly, Dutch looks great!!!
JK
12 years ago
Very impressive, Beverly! Isn’t it so cool how much these puppies can do?!
Good work Beverly! I love the video thank you for sharing with us. Willa is giving me the same out-of-position sits. Dutch is father along then Willa, but not a surprise since Dutch has a better owner. 🙂
I always move to heel position before rewarding. I need to work on the sit by itself within the context of proper position. The sit in heel position is actually just a component of the fuß (heeling). Fuß is a position the dog should be in relative to his handler: shoulder lined up with left hip. If the handler is moving then the dog moves staying in that position and if the handler is not moving the dog sitz. But the position to the handler should always remain the same. Jason’s video so perfectly demonstrates perfect fuß position. Maybe we should have him give us a some tips?
Very nice, Beverly! Great job on the hand signals. Thank you for sharing your video.
He’s so cute! Great video and great work!
Julie, Jason would probably tell you to watch Michael Ellis. I am personally not a ME fan (don’t *dislike* him but there are a lot of things he does I never do and don’t see much value in doing) however one thing I do like about ME is that he does a TON of “doodling” where the dog is always pivoting, pivoting backwards, heeling backwards, etc. The dog needs to understand the fuss position, not the movement. ME also trains the dog to find the leg. The dog should be able to find heel position before heeling forward.
This is a sweet ME video on heeling:
I personally start with the dog sitting in basic making eye contact and work this until the dog understands that fuss = be in heel position and make eye contact. I don’t take a single step in any direction until there is that understanding. This is something I have changed big time since training Nikon, where I did WAY too much luring and also started moving too soon, so he heels OK, not bad by any means, but he doesn’t have the same understanding of fuss position as a dog like Pan or Jason’s Ike and it’s pretty obvious. Also in order to heel really well a dog must be able to “collect” in the rear in order to stay straight, make left pivots, and not swing wide. This is where the perch work is really important. Jason also heels the dog between his legs as a puppy, so the dog doesn’t get in the habit of always crowding in one direction but always remains collected and straight. Another thing I like to do that encourages the rear collection and also rewards the position is to feed the dog as we heel rather than lure with the food. The dog is literally munching from my hand the whole time. My goal here is not to train the heel by fading the food, but physically condition the dog (“muscle memory”) for the correct position, so the dog becomes accustomed to how fuss *feels*. I don’t care that I feed the dog the entire time; if the dog has drive it is very easy to remove the food and move into actual heeling later on once the understanding is there. I would much rather condition the correct positions early even with a lot of help and gimmicks like the perch than move on too quickly and have to clean up.
Good reply Lies. You will find that all your dogs will benefit from the mistakes made with past dogs, or from things you wish you would have done differently. Then you will have new dogs that will teach you new things.
LOVE this clip, Lies! Thank you!
I really like ME’s philosophy and videos, but don’t find all of his techniques particularly useful to me and Batty, either. His “Focused Heeling” video is very good though.
Thank you all SO MUCH for your help and advice. I absolutely LOVE the “Freaky Footwork” video – it perfectly demonstrates what to strive for. I was so worried about my own lack of training proficiency. Dutch certainly has the ability to perform at the highest level. It is my own limitations that limit his potential. We love working together, and it’s necessary to continually raise the bar in order to challenge him. I depend upon feedback like yours in order to avoid making too many mistakes along the way.
Well done Beverly, Dutch looks great!!!
Very impressive, Beverly! Isn’t it so cool how much these puppies can do?!
Good job Beverly and Dutch.
You are doing a great job Beverly. We loved seeing the video.